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28 July More digging into neo-nazi involvement in the 9/11 "Truth" movementAnother high profile website that is often cited as a source of information for the 9/11 "Truth" movement is Alex Jones' website, prisonplanet.com Given what I have recently been enlightened to with regards to americanfreepress.net I decided to do some digging into Jones and see what skeletons might be in his closet. First question up is, does Jones' have any high visibility interaction with AFP? Meaning, does he reference AFP or its affiliates. Let's do some digging: http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=american+free+press&sa=Search&domains=prisonplanet.com&sitesearch=prisonplanet.com This is a google search of the prisonplanet.com website for "american free press" Here is the first page of hits: National Geographic Channel and 9/11 Propaganda
Bilderberg Exposed In Europe; Exclusive Reports Confirmed
Bilderberg Group Meeting 2004: Stresa, Italy, June 3-6
Berg Lawsuit Filed On Behalf Of Another WTC Bombs Witness
Ansar al-Islam leader threatens to document his links to US
www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg_pushing_world_tax.html - 9k -Cached - Similar pages Okay, so it appears he does at least reference their articles. Let's dig deeper. What about Liberty Lobby, AFP's parent publisher? http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=liberty+lobby&sa=Search&domains=prisonplanet.com&sitesearch=prisonplanet.com Hrm, sure enough. Not as many hits, but they are there. What about Liberty Lobby's founder, Willis Carto? http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=willis+carto&sa=Search&domains=prisonplanet.com&sitesearch=prisonplanet.com "Your search - willis carto - did not match any documents. " Well, nothing there. Something in there defense at least. No hits either on IHR, "Institute for Historical Review" or "Noontide Press". Looks like Jones may just not be aware that he is citing known history revisionist publications. Based on what I have found in this cursory snooping I can't say I'm willing to make any accusations against Alex Jones beyond that of quoting dubious sources. Check back as I investigate more into this possible link between fascism and the 9/11 movement. 27 July More info on AFP, Liberty Lobby, and their founder Willis Cartohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Lobby , which was founded/run by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Carto who is also the founder of Noontide Press and the IHR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Historical_Review the vanguard of revisionist history and Holocaust denial. Neo-nazis driving the 9/11 "Truth" movement?As can be seen in previous entries, I have been confronting Sept. 11th conspiracy theorists on their ideas that the 9/11 attacks were not carried out by 19 militant Islamic hijackers. Over the last couple of weeks I have taken to referring to them as "9/11 deniers", "Al-Qaeda shills", or "terrorist deniers" since they commit many of the same logical fallacies as Holocause deniers. Imagine my surprise when, this week, some information comes before me that shows that this parallel my not be quite as coincidental as I initially thought. On the JREF (James Randi Education Foundation) forums, which I frequent, the following post was made: "Those of you who've seen Loose Change or read my critique of it are aware that one of its main sources of disinformation is the American Free Press. The AFP is relatively new, and lists its predecessor as a publication called the Spotlight. I did some Googling on the Spotlight but didn't turn up much in my brief search. A reader has just emailed me with some very interesting (and not surprising) information, reprinted with permission: "Anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools." -August Bebel I just finished reading your excellent rebuttals to Loose Change and Loose Change 2, posted on 911Myths.com. I wanted to congratulate you on a job well done. I'd like to point out one thing, if I may, regarding your description of The American Free Press (AFP), which you correctly note is an "anti-Zionist", conspiracy-obsessed online publication. What you failed to note and what I think is of great importance in demonstrating the lengths to which Avery et al are willing to go to force the square pegs of history into the round holes of their claim, is that The AFP is not simply anti-Zionist(which I, personally, do not object to in and of itself) in orientation but is, in fact, the spin-off publication of the now defunct domestic neo-fascist organization, The Liberty Lobby, founded by American quasi-Nazi and conspiracist, Willis Carto. Formerly known as The Spotlight, The AFP is a perfect example of the "old wine in new skins" PR campaigns that many neo fascists and Third Positionist organizations have undertaken over the last few decades (perhaps best embodied by the current suit-and-tie public face of former (?) Klansmen and American Nazi, David Duke). While the pages of The AFP do not openly endorse things like Nazi-skinheads, Aryan Nations summerfests, Holocaust denial books and organizations, or sell Third Reich marching music CD's and Tapes, (unlike its former incarnation, The Spotlight) the fact that they proudly announce that their publication is "brought to you by the former staff of The Spotlight, who are now the publishers." should be more than enough reason for any serious researcher to keep a light year's distance between themselves and such a crackpot publication. Well, that and the piss-poor journalism advanced by its roster of rambling, reactionary, closeted and not-so-closeted Swastika-saluting scribes. Again, can someone tell me why Avery and his pals are relying so heavily on the neo-fascist AFP as a main source for LC2E? Could it be that they themselves, along with a growing number of so-called "alternative" researchers are, in some way, anti-Semites, or simply just fools? Is there a difference? "Pope" Ralph Hernandez" http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=1794153#post1794085 AFP is probably as heavily referenced by 9/11 CT'ers as S. Jones' paper (http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html) (1) Now, not wanting to commit the same errors in thinking that the 9/11 CT'ers commit, I did not want to take this at face value and decided to do some investigation. Here's what I have uncovered so far. http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...l_meeting.html
http://64.233.167.104/custom?q=cache...29003121141183 http://www.americanfreepress.net/Liberty_Supplement.pdf
http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...rs_strike.html
So, there is a conclusive, and short, trail from AFP back to Liberty Lobby who is one of the biggest neo-nazi/Holocause-denier movements to have blighted the US landscape. (for a good summation of their antics I suggest reading Michael Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things, or at least pick it up from the library and check out the chapters on Holocause deniers. My concerns about this connection are twofold: 1) The neo-nazi/neo-fascist movement in the US is, unfortunetely, reletively strong due to our protection of speech (no matter how stupid or irrational). With this backing the 9/11 "Truth" movement will be able to reach a sizeable audience. 2) If people become involved in the 9/11 "Truth" movement and begin looking at AFP as a source of credible, "unbiased", and independent information this would provide the neo-nazi/fascist movement with exposure and opportunity to indoctrinate new people into their movement. With these concerns in mind, I plan on digging further into this connection and trying to establish just how deep it runs. My next step will be to look into prisonplanet.com (Alex Jones' website) and see how tight the ties are between it and AFP. - Arkan (1) Jones' paper does not have the backing of the academic or professional communities: Critiques of Jones' paper by experts in the field: http://www.netxnews.net/vnews/display.v/AR...9/443801bdadd6e "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims" "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones's hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones's department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." - A. Woodruff Miller, Department Chair, BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering http://www.et.byu.edu/ce/people/people.php...miller/vita.php "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones." - The College of Engineering and Technology department http://www.et.byu.edu/index.php?m1=faculty&n=2 http://www.et.byu.edu/index.php?m1=faculty&n=2 "But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F." "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down." Professor Williams received his BSE from Princeton University in 1955 and his PhD from California Institute of Technology in 1958. He then taught at Harvard University until 1964, at which time he joined the UCSD faculty. In January 1981, Professor Williams accepted the Robert H. Goddard Chair in the Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering at Princeton University, where he remained until 1988, when he returned to UCSD to assume his present position. His field of specialization is combustion, and he is author of Combustion Theory (Addison, Wesley, 2nd ed., 1985) and co-author of Fundamental Aspects of Combustion (Oxford, 1993). He is a deputy editor of Combustion and Flame and a member of the editorial advisory boards of Combustion Science and Technology, Progress in Energy and Combustion Science and Archivium Combustionis. http://www-mae.ucsd.edu/RESEARCH/WILLIAMS/williams.html
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