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February 27 Andy Mckee Amazing Guitar PlayerA Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 4: The HijackersThe fourth, and final, part of ref's (from JREF) writeup:
Here comes the last part. after this I will be making some kind of a compilation. This part focuses on the hijackers. Not all claims are addressed, but some of the most common ones. Once again, an "In Brief" section is provided with each claim. This gives a quick glimpse of the explanation behind any particular theory. Further readings are also linked with every claim. Here goes part 4: The Hijackers. The Hijackers
http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...rrTrav_Ch2.pdf http://www.sacred-texts.com/ame/911/911tr/012604.htm http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/09/17...ism/index.html http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html
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http://www.911myths.com/html/still_alive.html http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics...itle=Hijackers http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1559151.stm http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor..._theory_1.html In Brief: The story was first reported by the BBC and several other news agencies in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. BBC updated their story in 2006. The update clearly states: “The story, written in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was about confusion at the time surrounding the names and identities of some of the hijackers. We later reported on the list of hijackers, thereby superseding the earlier report. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=70300 http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...08/norad200608 http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm http://www.911myths.com/html/stand_down.html
Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) and Transport Canada handle the ADIZ clearances, so a request for intercept from one of these agencies precedes any action by NORAD against civilian aircraft. NORAD do not directly monitor air traffic inside the ADIZ themselves.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/no_hija...manifests.html http://www.911myths.com/html/officia...st_images.html http://graphics.boston.com/news/pack...1_manifest.gif http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notable...n/OG00010.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_..._dropouts.html http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot186/ In Brief: The manoeuvres required of the hijackers were within their capabilities, they were performed without any degree of finesse and resulted in damage to the targets only after desperate overmanoeuvring of the planes.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042801315.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Participants_in_the_September_11%2C_2001_ attacks In Brief: Mohamed Atta, the pilot of flight 11, came from a middle-class household in Egypt. In Hamburg, Germany, he earned his master's degree in architecture.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary.../12279-1.shtml http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-09-11-sept11-remains_x.htm http://www.911myths.com/html/officia...st_images.html http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...ht931027p5.asp -------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/strip_clubs.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042801315.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/st...906442,00.html http://www.tbsjournal.com/Archives/Fall02/Fouda.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Recommended reading for the interested: http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm http://www.911myths.com/ http://www.debunk911myths.org/ http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64 See also: Part 1: WTC Part 2: The Pentagon Part 3: Flight 93 A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 3: Flight 93ref, from JREF, brings us part three of his write-up. This time addressing Flight 93:
The saga continues. This is an analysis of theories surrounding Flight 93 in 9/11. This analysis is not taking into account every single small theory. This is a collection of most common theories and their explanations. I have again included an "In Brief" section to each theory. Here goes part 3: Flight 93 Flight 93
http://www.911myths.com/html/93_land...cleveland.html http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf http://www.freetimes.com/story/681 In Brief: Liz Foreman, whose name was attached to this story, tried to clear it up in February 2006: “The story in question, an Associated Press bulletin, was posted on WCPO.com during the morning of September 11, 2001. The story stated that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland. This was not true.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_seismology.html http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf In Brief: The initial seismic report claiming the time 10:06 was from 2002. The Commission had this to say:------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/missing_engine.html http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=7 http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=8 http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence.../producer.html http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics...le=Indian_Lake In Brief: There was a white jet in the vicinity of Flight 93--a Dassault Falcon 20 business jet owned by the VF Corp. of Greensboro, N.C. The FAA asked them to investigate and they did. They got down within 1500 ft. of the ground when they circled. They saw a hole in the ground with smoke coming out of it. They pinpointed the location and then continued on. The only military plane in the vicinity of the crash site was an unarmed C-130 cargo plane. The cargo plane was returning to Minnesota before Flight 93 crashed and was flying at 24,000 feet about 17 miles from the crash site.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics..._-_Phone_calls http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics...le=Cell_phones http://www.911myths.com/html/the_9_1...en_t_real.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93 In Brief: Ten passengers and two crew members were able to make calls that went through. All but two of them were airphone calls. Only two phone calls, one by Edward Felt and one by flight attendant CeeCee Lyles, came from cell phones — both at 9:58 a.m, shortly before the plane crashed. At this point, the aircraft was ~5,000 feet above sea level. They worked.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=8 http://www.freetimes.com/story/681 http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...ht931027p5.asp http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary.../12279-1.shtml In Brief: 102 DNA analysts took over the difficult chore of generating a DNA profile of the victims. Their work included not only the Pentagon crash victims, but the victims of the Somerset County crash as well.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_eyewitness.html http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html http://www.freetimes.com/story/681 In Brief: Multiple eyewitnesses saw an airplane. Everyone onboard was identified by DNA. Lots of plane debris and both black boxes were found. Is there any question anymore?------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61633 In Brief: That whole claim and analysis is made by one single person, who lives a conspiracy life and has no actual photo analysing skills or training. The claim has zero substance.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com...k-bingham.html http://www.911myths.com/html/mom__th...k_bingham.html In Brief: Mark’s mom says the following in a Discovery Channel “The Flight That Fought Back” documentary:------------------------------------------------------------------------ Recommended reading for the interested: http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf http://www.911myths.com/ http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics...ines_Flight_93 http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64 http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech.../1227842.html? See also: A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 1: WTC A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 2: The Pentagon February 20 Tune in and watch live as the GoldenTee 2007 TeamUSA members of selected!Tune in and watch live as the GoldenTee 2007 TeamUSA members of selected! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUb6IgKY2oQ Watch IT, Rate IT, Pass IT along to your friends! February 13 A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 2: The Pentagonref, from JREF, continues his writeup, addressing the Pentagon this time:
A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 2: The Pentagon
Thanks to encouraging feedback, I have made a sequel. This is an analysis of theories surrounding The Pentagon in 9/11. This analysis is not taking into account every single small theory. This is a collection of most common theories and their explanations. Again I have included an "In Brief" section to each theory, so people won't have to click thousands of links to get information and to keep new readers from exhausting with a huge amount of information. Everything is packed into one single post and everything is linked to further reading. Here goes Part Two, The Pentagon. Pentagon
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=6 http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b03017.pdf http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon-photos.html In Brief: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings. Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b03017.pdf In Brief: There definitely was plane debris at the site. The impact damage also fit that of an Airplane. The plane travelling at a very high speed and hitting a hard wall creates a huge impact force. This force destroys everything into small pieces.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b03017.pdf http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html In Brief: The number of eyewitnesses mentioning a plane is huge. The number of eyewitnesses mentioning a missile is zero. The impact damage fits that of a plane.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary.../12279-1.shtml http://www.911myths.com/html/bodies_identified.html In Brief: What some experts have called "the most comprehensive forensic investigation in U.S. history" ended Nov. 16 with the identification of 184 of the 189 who died in the terrorist attack on the Pentagon.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pen...deo/index.html http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b03017.pdf http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...ght=doubletree http://www.flight77.info/maguire.htm In Brief: Video showing the impact from the Pentagon Checkpoint has been released. Video showing the fireball from the Doubletree Hotel camera has been released.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=66047 http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf In Brief: Simply. It is not faked. The analysis claiming it's fake do not take into account everything needed. The data verifies everything about plane hitting the Pentagon.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...n+lightpol es In Brief: Multiple eyewitnesses have witnessed the plane hitting the light poles.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/index.html http://www.911myths.com/Another_Expert.pdf http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...skthepilot186/ In Brief: Hani Hanjour's flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. The manoeuvres required of the hijackers were within their capabilities, they were performed without any degree of finesse and resulted in damage to the targets only after desperate overmanoeuvring of the planes. Landing a plane is difficult. Flying it into something is easier.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentago...batteries.html In Brief: If they did exist then wouldn’t you have expected Pentagon employees to also have raised this question?------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://renovation.pentagon.mil/projects.htm http://renovation.pentagon.mil/projects-W1.htm In Brief: What actually WAS renovated was Wedge 1. Not the entire side of the Pentagon.Recommended reading for the interested: http://www.fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/bu...PDF/b03017.pdf http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon.html http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64 http://eric.bart.free.fr/iwpb/witness.html http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf See also: A Guide for the Undecided part 1: WTC http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=74652 A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 1: WTCref, over at the JREF forums put together a nice little primer on common conspiracy theories regarding WTC (9/11)
A Guide for the Undecided. Brief Analysis of Common Theories Part 1: WTC
This is a guide for the unsure. If you are not sure what to believe, who is telling the truth. This is an analysis of theories surrounding the WTC in 9/11. This analysis is not taking into account every single small theory. This is a collection of most common theories and their explanations. I have included an "In Brief" section to each theory, so people won't have to click thousands of links to get information and to keep new readers from exhausting with a huge amount of information. Everything is packed into one single post and everything is linked to further reading. I will at first write this tight package of most common claims and their explanations concerning the WTC. I might broaden to other issues and write other parts to follow this one. But this is a start. This is part one, the WTC. WTC
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...83&postcount=1 http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=186 http://www.debunking911.com/explosions.htm There are accounts of 503 firefighters, paramedics, and emergency medical technicians here: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html In Brief: Most of those accounts are about the sound of the towers as they were collapsing, and some are about cars, trucks, etc. that were on fire after the collapses. None have seen actual bombs, or claim nowadays that actual bombs went off. Accounts before the collapse are of bodies from the towers hitting the ground or other structures.----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...1&postcount=40 In Brief: The explosion in the north tower elevator shafts, which damaged several floors, the lobby, and basement levels, was caused by jet fuel. Why risk getting caught by blowing up the basement? What if the collapse started accidentally from there? There is no sense weakening the base, if the collapse should start from the top.----------------------------------------------------------------------
Discussed here: http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm In Brief: They made the decision to pull, which means the Fire Department. Fire Departments don't demolish buildings. Why would Larry Silverstein accidentally admit demolition on a non-live TV-show and not have it edited away. Pull meant the personnel, that had to be pulled from the scene, because WTC 7 showed signs of critical failure.----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7_fire.html In Brief: There is a huge amount of eyewitness material comfirming the damage, as well as fires. Also videos from the south side show large amount of smoke from almost each floor.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm In Brief: WTC 7 damaged surrounding buildings. The Penthouse collapsed way before the actual building. The pile was not tidy. Those are not signs of Controlled Demolition. Pictures from the scene confirm this. Those that are not selected to show the scene only after the place was partly cleaned.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_...t_the_wtc.html In Brief: The colour of the material means nothing. The material flowing out the window that was glowing wasn't necessarily due to black body radiation but could have been due to spectra generated by chemical reactions in various materials in the melt that may have interacted with each other. A third factor that affects color would be reflection of ambient light, which isn't black body radiation and isn't spectra due to chemical reactions.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://wtc.nist.gov/reports_october05.htm http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php...&postcount=214 http://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/bitstrea...1/WTCpaper.pdf http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm In Brief: The towers had their unique design. They can not be compared to other buildings, which have not been even damaged by an impact before the fires.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...on#post2193448 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/08/ny...=1&oref=slogin In Brief: Silverstein is rebuilding. The total cost of the massive project is now estimated at $9 billion.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.debunking911.com/overp.htm In Brief: A buildup of pressure caused by the compression of air between the floors pushed debris out of the already broken windows and/or open vents. Falling debris like elevators or elevator parts/motors and/or columns free falling down the elevator shafts and slamming into lower floors creating debris can also have similar effects. In a sense the floors are large plungers and the towers are just one big Syringe during the collapse.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm http://www.911myths.com/html/freefall.html In Brief: Neither of the towers fell at so called free fall speed. The surrounding debris fell faster than the towers itself. A huge piece of the core of the north tower can be seen standing for a while after the collapse. This can be confirmed from the collapse videos.------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.911myths.com/html/pulverised_concrete.html http://forums.randi.org/showthread.p...zed+concre te In Brief: WTC was not made of reinforced concrete. Towers had steel with 4 inch lightweight concrete floors. An enormous amount of energy was released in the collapse. That energy destroys everything.Recommended reading for the interested: http://wtc.nist.gov/reports_october05.htm http://www.911myths.com/ http://www.debunking911.com/ http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64 http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html February 06 SAPS (Skeptical Analysis of the Paranormal Society) gets a faceliftSAPS (Skeptical Analysis of the Paranormal Society) gets a facelift
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